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Magnus Carlson, ladies and gentlemen.

You want some coffee?

No, oh, this is water.

Tell Jeff to bring in the coffee.

I forgot to bring in the coffee.

No, no, I'm good with water.

I need coffee.

I'm going to keep up with you, buddy.

And, of course, Tony Hedgecliff is here, who's a gigantic chess fan and just creamed his pants

yesterday when I told him you were coming in.

And then immediately I said, you've got to come with me.

And so Tony's here as well it's an honor to meet you man I'm I I'm

always fascinated by people that are at the top of something that's insanely difficult like

chess and I'm always wondering like how much time is involved how much how often do you play and

when did you start how old were you when you first started playing?

I think my dad is an avid chess player.

So I think he thought that I might have some talent. So he taught me pretty early around five years old.

But at that time, I wasn't that interested.

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