Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

And welcome back to the Council of Trend Podcast.

I'm your host, Catholic Answers Apologist and Speaker, Trent Horn.

Today is part two of our imaginative supposings with David Bates, the co-host of the Pints

with Jack Podcast.

Last time, we spoke about imaginatively supposing what it would be like to look at the correspondence

between a senior demon and a junior demon, screw tape and wormwood, who are trying to

tempt a man to give up on God and be damned for all eternity.

And in the process, we learned how to avoid those kind of temptations and get to heaven.

And getting to heaven is nothing we're going to talk about today.

And our imaginative supposing about what it would be like to take a bus trip to heaven

with stops at hell and purgatory along the way in very creative ways.

So joining us again, Mr. David Bates, David.

Welcome back to the Council of Trend Podcast.

And it's great to be back and I'm glad that we're heading to heaven this time.

Yes, we always got to start with the dark before we can end with the light.

So we're going to go there.

Before we get there though, a special reminder, be sure to check out trendhornpodcast.com.

So I can continue doing the podcast and have great guests like David Bates on the show.

Also to have guests to engage me in dialogue and debates.

We'll be doing a debate on the Deutero canonical books and scripture coming up here in April.

A debate is on why our Protestant Bible is smaller.

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