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at Wyoming Catholic.edu. We have with us today Michael Cholby. He is chair in philosophy at

University of Edinburgh. He has authored many things, including suicide,

the philosophical dimension.

He's also the founder of the International Association

for the Philosophy of Death and Dine.

His new book is Grief, a Philosophical Guide,

and that is our topic today.

Welcome, Professor Chalby.

Thanks very much.

I really appreciate the invitation.

Goodwell, you know to the start how common is the portrayal of grief in arts and literature.

But it's not much addressed or well addressed by philosophers. Why is that?

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