I read this book How to Change Your Mind is the treatise on psychedelics, the history, the benefits.

I was having trouble. You know, somebody come up to me and they'd ask me they go you served in a Vietnam War didn't you?

I would start crying. I couldn't handle it. The longer the time went on the worst it got for me.

When I read in there that you can handle that that way,

said I want to try this.

After that, I was a different guy. I was like I was before the war for sure and also the way I should

have been as a kid and I felt good I felt so I mean I felt lighter I felt better I felt more you know more

relieved you know like everything was okay and you know and that was that was that was psychodelics and you know the one thing I will tell you

psychodelics gave me my life back. I actually think that's interesting what you just

said Bob. We were talking about guys, girls being tough and I said yeah we have to be but guys do too and if there's one thing about your life that you've been is tough whether it's from your childhood, being in the Marines, being injured, dealing with sort of

the emotional side of your childhood later in life, building businesses, selling, losing lots of money, building another business.

And as you said before, no business is ever easy to dominate

and make extremely successful no matter what you've done before.

So where does that, where does it come from?

Where does that, where does the strength, where does the clarity in what you want and that drive come from?

Well I think part of it comes from maybe a lot of it if not all of it comes from

growing up with absolutely nothing. And you know that old saying you know if

you ever think you're too thin or you have too much money you've never been fat or broke.

So I mean you know being dead broke

a big driver for when you finally get an idea what to do to be successful.

Work hard at it.

And then plus, beyond that I had the training the Marine Corps gave me which did nothing but helped me and as a matter of fact

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