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Inside the Hive

Civil War Is “On the Table.” Vanity Fair's Jeff Sharlet on the Martyrdom of Ashli Babbitt and What’s to Come

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week, Vanity Fair contributing editor Jeff Sharlet joins Inside the Hive to talk about his journey into the far-right world of Jan. 6 insurrectionists, Qanon-ers and Trump cultists — who they are, what they’re saying, what they believe, and what their still-growing movement might portend (including the specter of civil war in America). Also: Willem Marx, a London-based contributor to Vanity Fair, discusses the fall of British PM Boris Johnson as well as his latest report on the undue influence of Putin-connected Russian oligarchs in the British establishment - including, allegedly, Johnson himself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:24.0

Welcome to Inside the Hive. This is your co-host, Joe Hagan.

0:29.0

Today I've got two very exciting conversations.

0:32.0

Right, dead center in the molten hot lava of the news cycle.

0:37.0

First, Jeff Charlotte, our contributing editor from Vanity Fair,

0:41.0

to talk about his latest reporting on the far right movement.

0:45.0

You know, next week we're going to have the January 6 hearings back again to talk about these white nationalist groups and insurrectionists

0:52.0

and their connection to the Trump White House and how those Capitol riots came together well.

0:57.0

That was just the beginning.

0:59.0

And Jeff Charlotte has crisscrossed this country getting a first-hand account of what these people are saying, doing and thinking.

1:08.0

And, you know, what is the specter of their idea of what's going to happen next?

1:13.0

Does it civil war, more insurrections?

1:16.0

You know, how are these people going to be manipulated and guided by politicians who are exploiting them and in fact are them?

1:26.0

They are part of the far right movement.

1:28.0

Jeff Charlotte, he's going to tell us what you can hear and see and expect.

1:32.0

Secondly, we have villain marks.

1:35.0

He is a contributor to Vanity Fair based in London and he is going to give us an account of what's happening there this week as Boris Johnson's role as Prime Minister has finally ended.

1:48.0

What a long, frustrating, painful kind of dissolution that political career has been and how did it happen?

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