Dialogue: The Second Mansion

Turning to the Mystics with James Finley

Center for Action and Contemplation

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2020

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Jim and Kirsten have a dialogue around the second mansion of Teresa of Avila's The Interior Castle and discuss the path it provides for spiritual transformation. In this episode, Kirsten references a translation of the Interior Castle by Mirabai Starr. You can get it here. Resources: Turning to the Mystics is a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more about Jim, visit jamesfinley.org  The transcript for this episode can be found here. The book being used for this season can be found here. Check out our online course on the Interior Castle, details are here. Connect with us: We also produce other podcasts you might enjoy. To learn more about them and our other offerings, visit cac.org This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation.
0:04.4	To learn more, visit cacac.org.
0:08.9	Greetings, I'm Jim Finley.
0:11.6	And I'm Kirsten Oates. Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.
0:17.0	Welcome to Turning to the Mystics.
0:25.0	In this season we're turning to Saint Theresa of Avala and looking at her beautiful book, The Interior Castle.
0:32.0	In today's episode, beautiful book, The Interior Castle.
0:33.2	In today's episode, I will continue to engage Jim in a dialogue going a little deeper into
0:39.5	mansions one, two, and three.
0:43.0	Last week we covered mansion one, and today we'll look at mansions two and three.
0:49.4	Before we start, maybe we could just do a recap of mansion one and kind of the key
0:56.3	takeaways about mansion one do you want to start there?
0:59.8	Sure. We enter the first mansion of the soul at those points in our life where God's presence
1:09.6	in our life becomes personally meaningful to us. And where we realize that while our lives
1:19.1	have an outside through external events and circumstances, Our life also has an inside.
1:25.0	And that interiority of our life in which God is present becomes something personally important that we feel
1:36.2	drawn to stabilize ourselves in. But it's difficult because when we first find our way into this first mansion,
1:48.0	our heart is still divided with the external pressures and concerns and complexities and all of that.
1:57.0	And so Teresa says people in the first mention they do pray but they don't pray well and they don't play
2:03.2	or pray often it's hard to find the time for it and then when you do pray it's
2:08.5	hard to deal with the distractions and so on so there's it's the gift of it, but you're also feeling the challenge of
2:16.2	how can I learn to stabilize in this more this kind of more attentive state
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