Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's On Leadership Series.

My name is Scott Miller and I serve as your host each week.

Today is an exciting day.

We have the literary Titan Doris Kearns Goodwin joining us.

Wone the Pulitzer Prize, prolific author, best-selling author,

presidential scholar, and really leadership coach.

I think less by intention and more just by hard work and

expertise. She's joining us today on leadership from her tour in California. Doris,

welcome to the show. Thank you very much Scott glad to be with you. Oh so

excited to have Doris Kearns Goodwin on leadership. We're super excited. I'm

excited to get into the book. First Doris I want to take a couple of minutes and talk about your

journey. Most people know you as this best-selling author and really the worlds or the nation's

leading authority on presidential history and leadership,

but you've had an amazing career since that and before that.

Would you take a minute and kind of walk us through what your life's been and kind of how you got to

where you are today. Well I've always loved history I think from the time I was

little but it came into presidential history after graduate school because I was

selected as a White House fellow when I was 24 years old this fabulous program

Colin Powell was a White House fellow Leslie Clark was a White House fellow.

We had a big dance at the White House the night we were selected. This is during President Johnson's White House. He did dance with me, the President did, and he said he wanted me to be assigned directly to him in the White House, but it was not to be that simple.

For in the months leading up to my selection, while I was a graduate student, I was

active like many young people in the anti-Vietnam War movement, and I'd written an article

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