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🗓️ 19 December 2018
⏱️ 74 minutes
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0:00.0 | Specter Vision Radio. |
0:03.3 | Welcome to Weird Studies, an art and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martell. |
0:21.8 | For more episodes and to support the podcast, go to Weird Studies.com. Why don't we start by you telling me a little bit about how the class went, and that'll get us into the topic. |
0:54.6 | Very briefly, JF was going to come to guest teaching my class, and then for reasons beyond our |
1:00.3 | control, he couldn't. |
1:01.5 | Right. |
1:02.4 | It went fine, except, you know, I got to say, it was the last class, and everybody's burned out. |
1:10.2 | Right. |
1:10.5 | You know, I spend a lot of time talking about de-territorialization. |
1:15.6 | Territorialization, de-territorialization is very important to that particular chapter on the refrain, |
1:20.1 | but it's just important to DeLis and Gattari in general. |
1:23.3 | You know, there's a kind of popular appropriation of De Lis and Guattari in academia. |
1:30.3 | Like, Deliz and Gotari are among the most name-checked of theorists, |
1:36.2 | and very often in ways that would probably have them spinning in their grave. |
1:41.2 | I mean, like very univocal interpretations of concepts that are not |
1:47.1 | intended to be univocal. Right. People wanting to nail down these concepts into neat definitions |
1:53.1 | that then can be instrumentalized in fairly straightforward ways, which seems to me to be somehow |
1:59.2 | at odds with the spirit of Deizant Gutari's book. |
2:03.5 | That's an example of re-territorialization right there. |
2:06.1 | Exactly. |
2:07.2 | And kind of ironically, one way that this happens in the kind of paint-by-numbers, theoretical academia, |
2:15.4 | de-territorialization is always good and territorialization is always bad. |
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