Oh my God, hi. It's me Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular

culture as the most important kind of culture. To celebrate, analyze, and eviscerate it, Troubled

waters pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop culture battle to the ego death. To win it,

each guest will be called upon to use their smarts,

their rhetorical skills, the comebacks they thought of just one second too late.

To earn the coveted Troubled Waters title, Pundit Emeritus, which will automatically give their

opinion on, let's say, if the pending fourth season of Ted Lassow even really needs Ted Lassau

to be in it, more weight than a civilians.

You're listening to Troubled Waters. Now see, I think we need, we need Jason Sudecass.

That is strictly because I still have a thing for Jason Sudecass.

Even when he's playing Ned Flanders, essentially.

Stupid sexy Sudecass.

Let's meet our guests.

Our first contestant wrote on Curses on Apple TV.

And most importantly, he is one of the hosts of your evangelists here on Maximum Fun. It's Dimitri Pompey Pompeii.

Pompeii, sir, Pompeii. Demetri Pompeii, what a name. Welcome. It's the one they gave me.

It's the one that I use and maybe I'll change it. You never know. I'm unpredictable like that.

You mustn't change it. It's too good. It's simply too good.

All right.

So we were talking Eurovision before the show began.

Are you planning on going in 2025?

I most certainly am, Dave.

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