Around the globe, more than $2 trillion in assets are managed by sustainable investment equity strategies,

which include ESG and impact investing.

These often attempt to perform as well, or even better than their benchmarks, while also having a positive impact on the world.

But is it actually possible to do both?

Just because a company decides to invest more dollars towards sustainable goals, that's not automatically going to be appreciated

by the investment community, the returns matter as well.

I'm also Nathan and this is Goldman Sachs exchanges.

Today I'm sitting down with Goldman Sachs' is Brian Singer, the global head of G.

sustained within Goldman Sachs research, and

Greg Shell, head of the inclusive growth strategy within Goldman Sachs asset management.

Brian, welcome to the program.

A pleasure.

Thank you. So Brian, you've covered the natural resources sector at G.S. for more than two decades.

For those who don't know, and Greg, I'm not sure you know this, Brian I actually started in the same

G.S. analyst class many, many moons ago.

Many moons.

And we worked closely together because I was in commodities

in the first half of my career,

commodities research.

You were covering the oil and gas sectors,

so clearly we had a lot of interaction and we go way back.

But you now lead the firm's research around sustainability and impact investing.

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