Do you have a favorite? Not meant to, but mostly the unloved ones, the unvisited ones, the cases that get dusty and ignored.

All the broken and shunned creatures.

Someone's got to care for them.

Who shall it be if not us?

Yes. Welcome to Roon soup, a weekly podcast about magic, culture and the very best new and old ideas for living in this world, coming to you from 43 degrees south on a small farm in deepest Tasmania. My name is Gordon and I shall be your

host. This week we welcome back to the show returning guest

Kai Armand. Globetrotting shaman extraordinary that he is.

Kai joins us from where he's currently based in Sao Paulo for a discussion on how we might best be with this moment, what lessons this moment

might be inviting us to learn, and even what medicines may be available now that otherwise wouldn't be.

We also, fair warning, talk about 30 Rock for a bit because that's just how we roll.

So listen up fives, a 10 is speaking.

Hi, a very welcome back.

Thank you so much for having you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's been, we chat a little bit on Twitter, but I realize it's been a couple of years now.

It was, uh, it was 2018.

Mostly 30 Rock.

Are you a part of the 30 Rock fan group on Facebook?

No, I don't use Facebook. Something like that would potentially have me revise that policy.

That group is my coven. Like I see things every day.

And I'm like, my people, my people, who remember mom and dad,

Tina Fay and her crew.

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm just thinking 2018

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