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Factually! with Adam Conover

How We Created an Age of Fire with Stephen Pyne

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Our species didn't just stumble upon fire during our evolution; we evolved because of our unique relationship with it. From cooking food to burning fossil fuels to climate change, the entire history of humanity is intertwined with fire. This week's guest is Stephen Pyne, a world-renowned fire historian and author of The Pyrocene: How We Created an Age of Fire, and What Happens Next. Adam and Stephen discuss the changes in our relationship with fire and how repairing that relationship will be integral to the survival of our species. Find Stephen's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0

This is a headgum podcast. I don't know what to think I don't know what to say.

0:15.0

Yeah, that's all right.

0:18.0

That's okay.

0:21.0

I don't know anything.

0:26.0

Hello and welcome to Factually. I'm Adam Conover.

0:28.0

Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.

0:30.0

You know, if you've smelled a certain aroma of burning in in the air if the sun has started to look a little more

0:35.4

orange-y pink than usual well you might have noticed it's fire season in America.

0:40.4

Of course it feels like it's been fire season for a couple of solid years now and there's truth to that.

0:46.6

Extreme wildfires have doubled in just the last 20 years.

0:50.6

And these fires are not only a product of global warming. They're a product of humans directly.

0:57.0

In California, where I live, 95% of all wildfires are caused by people.

1:02.8

They are not natural disasters.

1:04.6

They are human disasters.

1:06.9

But you know what?

1:07.8

That shouldn't actually be surprising to us

1:09.8

because the history of humanity is in fact the history of fire itself.

1:15.0

In billions of years of life on Earth, we are the only species that has managed to

1:20.1

control and start fire.

1:22.3

We have fire to thank for our big brains, which we were able to evolve because we were able to cook food using fire.

1:28.8

We have fire to thank for the fossil fuel economy that gave us everything from cars to chat

1:33.4

gp d and for the ongoing threat of catastrophic climate change. So when you look at

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