The following is a conversation with Kyoki Jackson.

He's the CTO of Lockheed Martin, a company that through strong history has created some

of the most incredible engineering marvels human beings have ever built, including planes

that fly fast and undetected, defense systems that intersect nuclear threats that can take

the lives of millions, and systems that venture out into space, the moon, Mars, and beyond.

In these days, more and more, artificial intelligence has an assistive role to play in these

systems. I've read several books in preparation for this conversation. It is a difficult one,

because in part, Lockheed Martin builds military systems that operate in a complicated world that

often does not have easy solutions in the gray area between good and evil. I hope one day,

this world would rid itself of war in all its forms. But the path to achieving that in a world

that does have evil is not obvious. What is obvious is good engineering and artificial

intelligence research has a role to play on the side of good. Lockheed Martin and the rest of

our community are hard at work at exactly this task. We talk about these and other important

topics in this conversation. Also, most certainly both Kyokinai have a passion for space. Us,

humans, venturing out toward the stars. We talk about the exciting future as well.

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at Lex Friedman spelled F-R-I-D-M-A-N. And now, here's my conversation with Kyoki Jackson.

I read several books on Lockheed Martin recently. My favorite and particular is by Ben Rich,

Calls Concord's personal memoir. It gets a little edgier times. But from that, I was reminded that

the engineers of Lockheed Martin have created some of the most incredible engineering marvels

human beings have ever built throughout the 20th century and 21st. Do you remember a particular

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