Hi and welcome to the Team Deacons podcast. This podcast is a dialogue between

Roger and James Deacons often joined in the conversation by a guest. It's very

informal and we never know where it will go. We're connecting through Zoom so bear

that in mind when you hear the audio. If you'd like to submit a

question or topic please do so by emailing pod pod pod pod at roger deacons.com.

If you'd like to become one of our sponsors, please email us at pod, POD at Roger Deacons.com.

We have a cinematographer with us today.

Some of his credits are The Hangover movies, Paul, The Dictator, and of course, Joker. We're pleased to welcome Larry Shird with us today

Larry thank you for doing this

I'm so grateful to be here thank you for for having me. This is exciting for me as well.

Well, we want to start with, how did you get to where you are now?

Did you follow another path first?

Did you always know you wanted to be a cinematographer?

What's your story?

I definitely, it was not something I knew I wanted to do when I was a child.

I was just a bit of a sort of a normal kid sort of wandering around and playing sports and

you know fucking off and doing all the stuff. I wasn't really I think if I was going to follow

a path it was probably a path of medicine because my dad's a doctor,

he's a pathologist, now retired, but my mom was a teacher of the deaf in Queens.

And I think, yeah, it's like as a Jewish kid growing up in New Jersey, you're like,

I'll be a doctor. If not a doctor, maybe a lawyer. It was like nothing that, except I always

had a bit of a creative streak in me when I was a child I really liked to draw and then in my senior year of high school I broke my nose playing baseball and I just stayed in the dugout and took pictures with my dad's old

...