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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Mubin Shaikh, Part 2: 9/11, Reinterpreting Islam, and Going Undercover

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In part two of their conversation with deradicalized extremist and former Canadian government operative, Mubin Shaikh, Lola and Meagan dig into Mubin's meet-cute with his now-wife (who was not Muslim when they met), how little she knew about his extremism, why 9/11 was the turning point in his radical beliefs, and his deeper exploration into Islamic texts and interpretations. They discuss how he reached out to the Canadian government after a former acquaintance was arrested for a bomb plot, going undercover to disrupt a terrorist plot by the Toronto 18, the intervention work he's done, and how his work has impacted him emotionally. To learn more about Mubin's work, visit Parents4Peace.org or call 1-844-49-PEACE Trust Me is brought to you by BetterHelp! Visit BetterHelp.com/trust to get 10% off your first month! Quote your car insurance at Progressive.com to join the over 29 million drivers who trust Progressive! Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or abuse of power? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at [email protected] CHECK OUT OUR MERCH!! bit.ly/trustmemerch  INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had

0:04.1

experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message

0:08.4

on our hotline number at 347-86 trust. That's 347-868-7878 or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod

0:18.2

at gmail.com. Trust me, do you trust me? Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never

0:25.6

lied to you. I'll never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:32.7

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two

0:38.4

metalheads who've actually experienced it. I am Lola Blanc, and I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:43.2

And today is part two of our interview with Mubin Shake,

0:45.9

de-radicalized Islamic extremist and former security intelligence and counterterrorism operative.

0:50.8

And today's episode will talk about his meet-cute with his now wife who was not Muslim when they met,

0:55.1

and how seeing the pain that 9-11 caused was the start of his de-radicalization which continued

0:59.6

as he further explored his religion. We'll get into how he began communicating with the Canadian

1:04.6

government. When he saw that a man he knew in school had been arrested for a bomb plot and how

1:09.9

he went undercover to combat a new terrorist plot with what is now known as the Toronto 18.

1:16.0

Plus, the intervention work he's done and how it's impacted him emotionally.

1:21.2

Yeah, this is great. I mean, this is so fascinating. His story is so fascinating.

1:25.4

Before we dive into part two with Mubin, Megan, what's your cool taste thing?

1:30.3

Well, okay. I've been reading a lot about the new show coming out about the

1:34.7

Duggers. It's called Shiny Happy People. Have you seen those trailer yet?

1:38.9

Not yet. It's going to be released June 2nd. I'm super excited to see it.

1:43.6

One of the daughters is in it. It's Jill Dugger.

1:46.5

Essentially, they follow the Institute of Basic Life Principles, which is started by a man

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