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🗓️ 24 May 2023
⏱️ 56 minutes
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0:00.0 | If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had |
0:04.1 | experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message |
0:08.4 | on our hotline number at 347-86 trust. That's 347-868-7878 or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod |
0:18.2 | at gmail.com. Trust me, do you trust me? Trust me, I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never |
0:25.6 | lied to you. I'll never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't! |
0:32.7 | Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two |
0:38.4 | metalheads who've actually experienced it. I am Lola Blanc, and I'm Megan Elizabeth. |
0:43.2 | And today is part two of our interview with Mubin Shake, |
0:45.9 | de-radicalized Islamic extremist and former security intelligence and counterterrorism operative. |
0:50.8 | And today's episode will talk about his meet-cute with his now wife who was not Muslim when they met, |
0:55.1 | and how seeing the pain that 9-11 caused was the start of his de-radicalization which continued |
0:59.6 | as he further explored his religion. We'll get into how he began communicating with the Canadian |
1:04.6 | government. When he saw that a man he knew in school had been arrested for a bomb plot and how |
1:09.9 | he went undercover to combat a new terrorist plot with what is now known as the Toronto 18. |
1:16.0 | Plus, the intervention work he's done and how it's impacted him emotionally. |
1:21.2 | Yeah, this is great. I mean, this is so fascinating. His story is so fascinating. |
1:25.4 | Before we dive into part two with Mubin, Megan, what's your cool taste thing? |
1:30.3 | Well, okay. I've been reading a lot about the new show coming out about the |
1:34.7 | Duggers. It's called Shiny Happy People. Have you seen those trailer yet? |
1:38.9 | Not yet. It's going to be released June 2nd. I'm super excited to see it. |
1:43.6 | One of the daughters is in it. It's Jill Dugger. |
1:46.5 | Essentially, they follow the Institute of Basic Life Principles, which is started by a man |
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