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🗓️ 11 September 2023
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the witness history podcast on the BBC World Service. It's 30 years |
0:11.4 | since the Oslo Accords were signed. This agreement in 1993 aimed to bring about peace between |
0:18.3 | the Israelis and Palestinians. This week we're bringing stories from Israeli and Palestinian |
0:23.9 | history and today we're starting with that 1993 peace agreement. In 2010, Louise |
0:31.7 | Hidalgo spoke to someone with a close-up view of the negotiations. |
0:36.4 | It's summer 1993 and in Washington, a weary spokesman for the US Secretary of State publicly |
0:43.0 | dispairs that the Israelis and Palestinians will ever reach any kind of peace. |
0:48.5 | You forget to the end of the year and there's been no progress, you really have to assess |
0:51.5 | at that point whether it's wise to continue to use the resources of the United States |
0:56.4 | and specifically the good offices of the Secretary to help the parties. We can't, as we say, |
1:02.4 | over and over again, we can't do for the parties what they must do themselves, which is to |
1:07.8 | address these issues, make hard choices and go about the work of trying to build a framework |
1:14.2 | for lasting peace in the region. |
1:16.3 | But unbeknown to the US government spokesman and to the rest of the world, 6,000 kilometers |
1:21.6 | away in a quiet European capital, the Palestinians and the Israelis are talking. Away from the |
1:28.1 | world's media, the talks have been going on secretly for eight months and an historic |
1:33.2 | agreement is about to be reached. |
1:35.6 | The breakthrough where we knew for a fact that it would be signed, I mean, just happened |
1:42.3 | day or two before then, because it was extremely intense negotiations, obviously, until the |
1:49.9 | bitter end of all the details. |
1:52.8 | Mona Joule works for the Norwegian Foreign Ministry. Her husband, Terje Rudlasen, is |
1:57.6 | a sociologist and diplomat. Together, they helped make possible the talks that led to what |
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