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Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio

Restaurant Reviews that Bite Back: Pete Wells Speaks Up and Out

Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio

Milk Street Radio

Food, Arts

4.42.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Pete Wells, former New York Times restaurant critic, joins us to look back on his most infamous reviews, plus why he blasted Guy Fieri’s Times Square restaurant but loved Señor Frog’s. Photojournalist Kate Medley reveals why some of the best food in the South is served at the gas station; we make Cantonese Stir-Fried Black Pepper Beef and Potatoes; and Chris and Sara Moulton answer listener calls.

Get this week’s recipe for Cantonese Stir-Fried Black Pepper Beef and Potatoes here.

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Christopher Kimball’s Milk Street Radio is produced by Milk Street, in association with GBH

Co-Founder: Melissa Baldino

Executive Producer: Annie Sinsabaugh 

Senior Editor: Melissa Allison

Senior Producer: Sarah Clapp 

Producer: Caroline Davis 

Production Intern: Marisa Orozco

Production Help: Debby Paddock

Additional Editing: Sydney Lewis

Audio Mixing by Jay Allison at Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole Massachusetts

Theme Music: "Hang Tan" by Toubab Krewe

Additional Music: George Brandl Egloff

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Chris Kimball here at Milk Street. We're doing a special episode all about Mexico, so I'm taking your calls with our own Sanchez.

0:08.2

So from tacos to Moli to Chalutis, please send us your Mexican cooking questions, email us at questions at milkstreetradio.com.

0:17.7

Again, please send us your questions about Mexican cooking to questions at millstreetradio.com,

0:23.1

and of course, we'll be in touch. Thank you.

0:29.4

This is Mill Street Radio from PRX, and I'm your host, Christopher Kimball.

0:34.7

Last summer, New York Times critic Pete Wells did something surprising. He quit writing restaurant reviews.

0:41.4

Today he joins us to look back on his career, including his most famous review of Guy Fieri's

0:46.9

Times Square Restaurant. You know, I hope enough time has gone by that if I do run into him,

0:52.0

he doesn't take a sock at my jaw, but if he does,

0:55.2

I'll understand.

0:56.8

Plus Pete makes me reconsider my big pet peeve, restaurant noise.

1:01.8

If you wanted to sit in complete silence, you could just sit at home, and you don't need

1:08.2

to go out.

1:08.6

If you go out, you're kind of buying in to other people.

1:13.1

The world, according to Pete Wells, that's coming up later in the show.

1:16.5

But first, it's time to answer your cooking questions with my co-host, Sarah Malton.

1:21.6

Sarah is, of course, the star of Sarah's Weeknight Meals on Public Television, also author of Home Cooking 101.

1:29.1

Sarah, so this show, I'm interviewing Pete Wells, which was a great privilege for me,

1:35.5

but you worked in restaurants like La Toulip, and your opinion of restaurant critics

1:42.0

may be slightly different than mine.

1:47.9

So were you guys afraid of restaurant critics may be slightly different than mine. So were you guys afraid of restaurant critics? Did you know what they look like? Did you have their photos on the wall in the kitchen?

1:52.1

You know, did you have a plan in case one of them walked into the restaurant? Well, I worked in

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