This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This Podcast.

Well guys, you're going to love this.

We have a friend back on the podcast again who actually our last conversation ended up in my book, Find Your People, because it so impacted me and I wanted to dig in deeper into the things we talked about the first time.

So Jay Biro is so good to have you back on the show.

Thanks for coming back.

Thank you for having me. I'm excited for this second talk.

Yes. So to give everybody a little recap, talk just very high level about your story in case they

missed the first episode. In a nutshell I was born in

raising a place called Matara. Matara is in Africa and aerobic Kenya for those who

don't know. Grew up in a family single family of just my mom and my brothers, just four brothers. My mom was trying everything

possible to put food on the table and just the normal things that any parent could do.

And the only job that she had that was there to sustain

as was selling illicit liquor, which he called Chang'a.

And so she did that for a while,

and then at some point it became so hard for her to do it and so, you know, we started having normal problems in Madar and not everywhere in the world in Madarra were by, you know, lack of food, days without food or even when you get food is not like quality food,

it's not balanced food, so it's anything that you can get just to get your belly full.

One of the biggest challenge was lack of mentorship and somebody to, you know, talk to my dad was never there, my older brother was also in the same problem, there's no one could help me. And so because of all those things and those problems,

I ended up going to the streets of Nairobi,

which is the capital city of Kenya,

and I became a beggar.

And I was begging to find anything to eat

and then I would take whatever I would find back home to my family.

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