In 2016, college me, I didn't really have a concept of team.

You know, I knew I could code it fast and I knew how I wanted it, so I just did it.

And then it very quickly realized, you know, that doesn't work.

Instead of doing internships like the normal computer science student, we would sit in parking lots and offer moving services to all these stores.

At the end of the day, right, it's how can we deliver, pun intended, the best moving experience

possible, right? Because today, the moving experience, like, traditional moving kind of sucks.

It's not great. There's so much confusion. There's so much little last minute planning.

There's very little transparency

to what's going on. My name is Cameron Moreau, and I'm the CTO of Gizoba.

This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change in industry

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I'm your host, Noah Lab Park, and today, how Cameron Moreau decided to build a way

for you to move anything simply.

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Cameron Moreau grew up in DFW, more on the Dallas side of Texas.

Early on in his life, he thought he was going to have a career in music because he loved it.

Eventually, though, he discovered programming and went to school at the University of Texas

at Arlington, studying computer science.

He spends a lot of time with his dog, Twix, bike riding, rock climbing, and staying outdoors

when he can.

Note, he didn't get into rock climbing until he moved

to San Francisco because it's not really a thing in the flatlands of Texas. Post school, he spent

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