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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Scandal In The Wind

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

As new details emerge about Boris Johnson’s alleged affair with Jennifer Arcuri, the country seems strangely unmoved. Does personal morality really matter in leaders? And should we be thinking about the money not the sex? Plus, what does the unravelling Greensill saga tell us about backdoor access to government? Has David Cameron actually broken any rules? And we look at the trade realities that an independent Scotland would have to face. The Sunday Times's Whitehall Correspondent Gabriel Pogrund is our special guest for this one hundredth edition.  “It’s not for journalists to moralise about Johnson’s private life. What matters is that Jennifer Arcuri received public money.” – Gabriel Pogrund “The British public are gloriously indifferent as to whether their leaders have poor personal morality.” – Giles Wilkes “How was it that this guy who had just left a bank was able to inveigle himself into the heart of Government?” – Gabriel Pogrund “Greensill is not just about the rules, it’s about ethical principles. And there’s a risk to public perception over what Cameron chose to do.” – Hannah White “The SNP are taking a leaf out of Vote Leave’s book. It doesn’t help to be too candid.” – Gabriel Pogrund Presented by Bronwen Maddox with Hannah White, Giles Wilkes, Jess Sergeant and Akash Paun. Audio production by Alex Rees. Inside Briefing is a Podmasters Production for the IfG.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:14.7

I'm Bronwyn Maddox. Former Prime Minister finds himself accused of using his political

0:20.0

connections to lobby ministers on behalf of a financial services company.

0:24.6

The current occupant of Ten Downing Street is facing questions over whether or not his private life collided with decisions that he took during his time as mayor of London.

0:34.1

These are questions of access, of standards in public life, of ethics, of conflicts of interest.

0:39.2

We're going to put the rules and whether they're working in the spotlight.

0:42.9

We're then going to head to Scotland and look at how an independent Scotland, if that ever came about, could rejoin the EU.

0:49.9

How would that work? How long might it take? And what would it mean for the UK?

0:53.9

We've got a new

0:54.6

report out which explores all these questions and its authors join us later in the show. I'm joined throughout

0:59.9

today's podcast by Gabriel, Whitehall correspondent at the Sunday Times. Gabriel, great to have you

1:04.9

with us. How are you? I'm very well. It's lovely to be with you all. Great. And we also have with

1:10.7

us, Hannah White,

1:11.6

IFG Deputy Director and a former Secretary on the Committee on Standards in Public Life. She joins us

1:17.0

now. Hi, Hannah. Hi, Bronwyn. We also have Giles. Wilkes, IFG Senior Fellow and a former

1:22.9

advisor to Theresa May. Hi, Giles. Hi, Giles. Hi there, Bronyn. Great to have you all with us. Well, let's start

1:29.6

with this question of what politicians should or should not be doing and the questions about

1:34.1

David Cameron and Boris Johnson. David Cameron is embroiled in something now known as the

1:38.6

Greenshill saga. Giles, you've been keeping a really close eye on this. As succinctly is possible,

1:43.2

which may not be possible, what is going on?

1:46.3

Okay, I'll try and do this in one minute.

1:49.6

Let's Greenshill is a former banker who became well known to people around Whitehall in the early 2010s,

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