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🗓️ 21 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Steve, thank you so much for coming. So I think you've had one of the most, maybe the most remarkable life trajectories of anyone I've ever met. And you wind up close to Trump. You campaigned with Trump. You don't, I mean, you're an intimate friend of the presidents. And you could have had any job you don't want any job because you're doing your own thing. And then he taps you as a diplomat |
0:23.5 | as a negotiator on behalf of him and you wind up becoming, you know, probably the most effective |
0:29.3 | negotiator in my lifetime. And you have, you know, you speak for the president. I think everyone |
0:34.4 | acknowledges that you're honest and people like you personally. So those are obviously the foundations of effective diplomacy. But what have you learned about negotiating at a, you know, on behalf of a country in the last couple months? |
0:55.0 | Yeah. in the last couple months. Well, first of all, I think President Trump sets the table for all of us. |
1:18.3 | He really does. |
1:19.4 | This whole peace through strength thing, it's not just a slogan. |
1:23.8 | It actually works. |
1:25.3 | And so when he dispatches you to go to the middle east people are almost a little |
1:31.3 | bit intimidated before i before you get there and this goes for me and you know other people who |
1:36.6 | are doing a similar job so he sets the table in a pretty powerful way but but negotiating is is |
1:43.7 | being outcome-oriented. |
1:45.3 | I talk about this a lot. |
1:46.6 | It's figuring out where you want to get to. |
1:48.8 | That's Trump's game plan all the time. |
1:50.8 | I sit with the president and we talk often about what the end game is. |
1:56.9 | Where does he want to get to? |
1:58.6 | And once you decide where you want to get to, |
2:00.5 | then it's all about tactically figuring out what that pathway is. |
2:04.5 | With the Middle Eastern, you know, Tucker, when I first got in and I was talking to Brett McGurck, who was the envoy on behalf of Biden, he was a smart guy. |
2:16.0 | Yes. |
2:16.6 | He just didn't have a great boss giving him direction. So he couldn't really speak on behalf of Biden. He was a smart guy. He just didn't have a great boss giving him direction. |
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