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It's 2005 at a public radio conference. Everyone in the industry is there.

Story Corps founder Dave I say is the keynote speaker and he has a big announcement to make.

Dave gets on stage and tells the audience that StoryCorps is going national.

We're partnering with public radio stations around the country to send mobile recording booths out to do interviews.

Then Dave adds another announcement for good measure.

He says, moving forward, StoryCorps will be on the radio every Friday on NPR's morning edition.

Everyone in the audience began applauding enthusiastically,

except for one person, the person who was running that show.

There were no words.

I was just like, what? That's Ellen. running that's

were no words I was just like what that's Ellen McDonnell who was the head of

Morning Edition for many years Dave had been pushing for a spot on the show

for a while and Ellen's feedback was always the same.

Morning Edition is a national news program. Story Corps is just to New York.

Yeah so she told him let me know when StoryCorps starts recording nationally,

and then we'll discuss it.

I went up to him later and said, Dave, like, could we have talked about this?

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