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Axios Re:Cap

The Future of Vice

Axios Re:Cap

Axios

Daily News, News

4.5705 Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2019

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Dan looks at how a VC firm is investing entirely in vice industries with Axios' Kia Kokalitcheva. In the Final Two, Apple executive goes out alone and continuing consolidation in Defense sectors.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Texas ProRata, where we take just 10 minutes to get you smarter on the collision of tech, business, and politics.

0:10.4

We're up to you by Facebook. I'm Dan Permac. On today's show, Apple loses part of its core and why the U.S. Air Force is worried about big business mergers.

0:18.8

But first, the future of vice. So no, this isn't about

0:22.5

Joe Biden or about digital media companies. No, I'm talking about real vice here, alcohol,

0:28.1

tobacco, marijuana, and all other things deemed at least at one time to be socially harmful

0:33.6

or immoral. Not too long ago, it was virtually impossible for startups dealing in vice to get

0:38.9

traditional venture capital funding. Not so much because venture capitalists themselves were opposed

0:43.1

or because they didn't see profit potential, but because VCs invest out of funds that are largely

0:48.2

supported by institutions, institutions like university endowments and charitable foundations,

0:53.4

and even church pension funds.

0:55.2

In short, lots of those groups do have moral objections, or at least want to avoid headlines linking them to something like an e-cigarette or sex toy startup.

1:03.5

So we've seen a little bit of softening in Ventureland of late, at least in terms of cannabis companies that, quote, don't touch the plant, but still not too much,

1:11.5

which leads us to a new venture capital fund that was just announced not only to invest in

1:16.3

vice startups, but to invest in nothing but vice startups. In 10 seconds, we'll go deeper with

1:21.5

Axios's Kia Kukleacheva. But first, this. People are asking for more ways to see and

1:26.8

control the information companies have on them, and companies are changing in response. To learn what steps Facebook is taking, check out Facebook.com slash about slash ads.

1:38.6

We're joined now by Axios' Kia Kukleacheva. This morning, you reported on Vice Ventures, which has raised $25 million

1:45.1

to invest in these sorts of companies. And it's led by a woman named Catherine Dockery.

1:50.0

Who is Catherine Dockery?

1:51.4

So Catherine had kind of an interesting background, banking for a bit. And then she worked for

1:55.8

Andy Dunn, who was the CEO of Bonobos. That was this direct-to-consumer men's apparel company.

2:02.2

So then she wanted to get herself into VC.

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