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Craig Shirley is a presidential historian political consultant and Ronald Reagan biographer as well.

But we're going to talk about Jimmy Carter this morning.

Craig, welcome to the show.

I know everybody's been hitting you up to come on the radio. Thanks for taking the time with us this morning. Oh, yes, of course. Of course. Yes. Happy New Year.

And happy New Year to you. And I saw Newsmax. We will retweet this article, Reex, whatever we're saying these days. But that's a great article you wrote on Jimmy Carter. Not the worst president.

That is reserved for one James, President Biden, right?

Absolutely, is that Jimmy Carter will be charitable here.

His presidency was uneven.

His post-presidency was magnificent. But one thing about

Jimmy Carter, he was a Christian man who was unshakable as far as corruption and things like that.

Joe Biden is, this is the Joe Biden crime family. Joe Biden is the most corrupt president we've

ever had.

It sounds like a silly statement because I can't think of any president who was corrupt other than Joe Biden.

I know.

And he has to, if we can, for a second, that's why I said, James, I'm thinking about.

He's going to probably pardon his brother.

Linda Johnson.

Linda Johnson was corrupt.

Lyndon Johnson was corrupt, too, huh?

Yeah, oh, yeah.

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