Hello, everybody, welcome back to another episode of fluently Ford and we have a repeat guest that everybody loved last time.

Dr. Ryan Lynn Brown is back on the show with us. How are you doing,? What's new with you since we last talked about

manifestation and the placebo effect and all of the science around that? How have you been?

Oh, it was such a fun episode and I am so happy to be back in chatting with you Shannon. It's been good. I'm a professor now so that is very exciting recruiting grad students doing you know all of the things that have been the lifelong dream so figuring it out as I go but

excited for this you know new stage.

Well I'm so excited I mean I remember when we were chatting you know we it was more of a

research-based episode but we were kind of talking about like the

science of the placebo effect and everything the brain can do and you were working on

different studies with like people who have lost a spouse people who are going through loneliness, how that impacts stress, and then you

know you send out this newsletter because you have started this new podcast called The Stress Puzzle,

which had this very interesting first episode all about like

wearables that kind of like track your stress levels. And I got that when I was at a time in my life

where I thought I was going to lose my mind with stress and it made me think of you because I've been doing all these episodes here and on Patreon and everything that I find in all of this research I've been doing and granted my research is the

Google type yours is you know the professional type the professional Google

type yeah exactly exactly the font is like a little bit smaller and there's like

citations but I just find it so interesting that the two smaller and there's like citations.

But I just find it so interesting

that the two biggest problems I think most people deal with

is stress and loneliness.

And like if you can kind of work on your stress and loneliness,

like you'll be in a pretty good spot and that's everything you study.

So you know how did you kind of get into studying this you know did the chicken come first or the egg and what made you want to work on issues that are like so important to people in this sense.

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