You guys I am so excited about today's interview because it is with a couple, Angie and

Isaac Tolpin, who have eight children.

And I think it's so awesome to just see their family in person and the way that they're raising

their kids and Elaish and I are excited to bring them on to the show today because

they know so much about parenting they've been through so many different stages that we haven't been through and

Elishinare is so new to this. So not only do we want to learn from them, but we also just want to share with you guys

The wisdom that they have gleaned over the years.

So they're going to tell us a little bit about their story today and a lot about balance.

We're going to talk about balancing discipline while still focusing on

holding your children's hearts and also about balancing friendship while

still being an authority figure in your child's life. This podcast is just so

full of meat today, so maybe grab a pen or pencil, you guys. It's going to be really good. And we're going to dive right in. Before we do, though, if you wouldn't mind giving us a review or rating that is so helpful for this

podcast. Number one, it helps boost Elisha's in my morale, but it also helps get this show out there in the world, I guess, and in front of more families.

And ultimately, we just want to encourage families.

So if you could leave us a rating or review, I know it takes your valuable time time and it just means so much to us.

Hey, I'm Elisha Vober. And I'm his wife Katie.

Katie and I both grew up in big families. I'm Elisha Vopert. And I'm his wife, Katie.

Katie and I both grew up in big families

that were fun, impactful, and relationship rich.

Now that we're a family of our own

with two young children and our third on the way,

there's nothing that excites us more than seeing what God young children,

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