You're listening to the Mind Shift podcast. My name is Aaron McManus. I'm here in the car with Austin St. John and Jacob Williams.

So let's go. Our newest addition to the team. And, but not newest addition to my life. I've known since he was, I've known his parents.

You knew me. I was born. But you knew me when I was a baby. A baby. Yeah. I held you. Did you hold me? Yeah, I dropped you. That's why you're like this.

That's crazy.

Yeah, dude, I actually have a, like, I got a train of AC back on.

I have a very, like, core memory of, of Mosaic in Pasadena at, like, that old venue we used to be at.

Wait, Gary? Yeah, and you were playing the drums,

but you were playing it,

like they put you like on stage,

your mom was singing,

and you were playing,

like with the drumsticks and like a chair.

They put like a chair and drums music with you.

And you were like,

you had such insane rhythm.

The drummer at the time was like,

this kid's gonna be a monster that's so funny because you were you were like you

were just like hitting one and twos but you're like hitting in a way that was like perfect i literally

never heard this story before no yeah and i also don't play the drum so i it's so but you were just like

so on you know some kids they just go up there and start whacking stuff you were like on rhythm on beat

yeah i remember that that's like affirming to me now yeah somehow kids, they just go up there and start whacking stuff. You were like on rhythm, on beat.

Yeah, I remember that.

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