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Welcome to the Trap Set, where each week we explore the lives of drummers.

I want to play something for you. You know. The You're hearing Then Comes Dudley by The Jesus Lizard,

featuring my guest Mack McNeely on drones.

Formed in 1987, the Chicago-based band developed a feverishly loyal following thanks to a series of

propulsive studio records and live shows that redefined the terms wild and frenetic.

Mack's monumental drumming locked in with the bass playing of David William Sims to create

an unshakable framework for the

piercing serpentine guitar of Dwayne Denison and unhinged surrealist vocals of David Yao.

McNeely left the Jesus Lizard in 1996, and the band broke up a couple of years later.

In the subsequent years, they've come to be recognized as one of the most influential rock bands of their generation.

I spoke to Mack near his home in Evanston, Illinois.

And now our conversation with Mack McNeely.

You know, I guess I'd call myself kind of a well-rounded kid, I guess.

Music was always there.

But I had other interests such as throwing stuff at cars, lighting off firecrackers, lighting mailboxes on fire.

Did you ever blow up a toilet?

I didn't ever blow up a toilet. I don't think so. At least it doesn't like ring a bell. I may have thrown something down a commode somewhere, but that was probably, I was an accessory, I wasn't like the instigator, probably.

I don't know, I would mostly try to get reactions out of people while remaining anonymous.

Like that's like the lighting the mailbox on fire, I'd see a car coming down the street,

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