Hey everyone welcome back to the podcast let me tell you something just the fact that

Katie and I are able to have this conversation with each other and with you folks

folks blesses me immensely because as you're about to hear it hasn't always

been this way Katie and I haven't always been able to talk about

different theological ideas or principles or doctrines.

In fact, they've been points of contention at seasons in our marriage.

And so the fact that we're able to freely discuss these and come to

unity on some things and kind of agree to disagree on some other things is just a

huge blessing to me and it's encouraged me in my faith and I know Katie's

encouraged in her faith and I hope that this conversation

and kind of the way Katie and I have gotten to this point and how we share our story

encourages you and your spouse to discuss to disgust such matters no to discuss to discuss to disgust such matters. No to discuss such matters with each other.

And I would just ask that if you find any encouragement from the podcast if you take a moment and scroll down and

leave us a rating or a review it's just you could click on the stars down there I

mean we like the five star the best obviously but that just helps push the

podcast out we've told you guys this before but it does help really get the

podcast out there to more like-minded listeners so thank you so much for taking the time to do that.

Hey I'm Elisha Votberg and I'm his wife Katie Katie and I both grew up in families that were fun, impactful, and

relationship rich.

Now that we're a family of our own with three young children under the age of three

or eager to see what God can do through the family unit.

We're so excited that you're joining us on this podcast as we dive into what the Bible

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