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🗓️ 2 May 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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0:00.0 | In today's episode, I'll be reviewing Dr. Michael Horton's criticism of my recent episode on Soliscriptura and the Church Fathers. |
0:06.9 | Dr. Horton is a well-known figure in reformed circles and currently teaches at Westminster Seminary in California. |
0:12.4 | To give some background, in a recent episode, I posed a dilemma for Protestants who claimed that the church fathers believed in the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. |
0:20.1 | First, I noted that Protestant apologists rarely cite the fathers prior to the Council of Nicaea in 8325, |
0:26.6 | as can be seen in my debates with James White and Gavin Oritland on Sola Scriptura. |
0:30.6 | The lack of witnesses to the central pillar of Protestantism in the first 300 years of church history is very telling. The other horn of the |
0:39.4 | dilemma, if you will, admits there are testimonies from fathers in the fourth and fifth |
0:43.6 | centuries that exalt scripture, use it to settle disputes, and teach what Catholics call |
0:48.9 | the material sufficiency of scripture. This is the idea that the material theology, such as the dogmas God |
0:55.1 | is revealed, can all be found in scripture, at least in an implicit form. But the church is still |
1:00.8 | needed to put that theological material into its final proper form for people to believe. But let's |
1:06.5 | suppose Christians in the late 300s and the 400s did believe in Sola Scriptura. That's even |
1:13.2 | worse for Protestantism, because these same Christians also believed in uniquely Catholic |
1:19.3 | doctrines like the satradotal priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, confession of sins to a priest, |
1:25.4 | baptism and baptism, purgatory, seeking the intercession |
1:29.8 | of the saints, the perpetual virginity and sinlessness of Mary, and the need for bishops and the |
1:35.0 | pope to oversee the church. If those Christians of the 4th and 5th centuries are role models for Dr. |
1:40.4 | Horton because they allegedly believed in Soliscriptura, then why not follow their example |
1:45.0 | and conclude that Catholic doctrines have a solid biblical foundation? Now in his reply to me, |
1:50.6 | Dr. Horton claims he isn't trying to engage in a bunch of cherry picking. That's another important thing. |
1:56.0 | How did scripture function? It's not just quotes, cherry-picking quotes. How did scripture function? |
2:02.6 | Except Dr. Horton does just that, especially in the second half of his reply, where he just reads |
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