Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories,

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in your Spotify app to get started. Today, this is part two, a conversation between me and Ali Abdel on happiness and lifestyle

and things like that.

If you haven't heard part one, obviously go back and check out part one.

And then part two will make a whole lot more sense.

All right, here we go, part two with me and Ali Abdal.

So you live in California where the taxes are really high, you have two kids.

One thing I often worry about is like, well, I'm popular on YouTube right now.

Who knows how long this fame will last?

Surely I should be trying to make Haywall the Sun shines.

And a few years from now, yeah, yeah, maybe I should

just make videos about passive income ideas or some shit like that that will get the views and we'll

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