This is the Baimal Podcast with Marty Salman. I'm his co-host Brent Bellingham. Today we look at two

intimately connected parables in the stories of a crazy farmer and his mustard seed and a

credulous woman and her baked goods. Absolutely. Today we get a put to use the mechanics we learned

in the last episode. So we learned all about Pardez. Brent, take us through the four different

levels of Jewish hermeneutics. So you have Peshat, Ramesh, Drosh, and Soad. Peshat is like a

surface level reading what the word say in a literal sense. Ramesh is the hint that points you back to

an Old Testament scripture and the Drosh is the wisdom that you're supposed to get out of that

Old Testament scripture and then Soad is wisdom that you get directly and only from God.

Excellent. So as we look at teachings from rabbis, particularly Jesus for us here in the Gospels,

we can be looking for those and especially true, most prominently true in parables. It's like

the mechanics of how parable works. And again, I'm oversimplifying that I am over mechanizing it.

That's a word. I am over formulating it because we are Western and we like to and for the sake of

learning how to engage the practice, I'm okay with that. I like to always give that disclaimer,

like we're overdoing it, but it's just good for us to learn how to use the technique. It's okay

to do that. So as we remember, it's not like you can you can definitely do too much of this. You

can go too far. You can hold everything too rigidly. Don't do that. There's an exception to

every rule. Always. You can go too far with everything. We've talked about law of first mention. We've

talked about the meanings of numbers, all of that stuff. You can go too far with it. Correct. But

as I teach people how to edit photos, it's like how do you understand when you've oversaturated

an image? Well, every time you edit, you crank the saturation all the way up and then you crank it

all the way down and then you come back to the middle and you find where it should be.

So you kind of have to take you have to push the boundaries to figure out where you should. I like

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