Five, four, three, two, one.

Boom, and we're off.

What's up, brother?

How are you? Good, thanks for having me on.

My pleasure. Nice to meet you, man.

You know, it's funny that you just brought up Dr. Atia, you know when we were you were saying that you download the podcast you were saying I got to get that guy on.

Yeah, yeah it was funny. I was it auto downloads and that one popped up and I remember thinking about a week before that I was like well when I when we first scheduled this one I was I gotta tell Joe about Dr. Atte, he was one of the kind of first guys I really followed when I kind of dove into kind of

kind of the high fat approach to

to nutrition.

So yeah, he's a fascinating guy.

It was a great listen.

I had to listen to it like twice.

Yeah, he's a weird guy.

He's one of those guys where you talk to him

and you think oh this is a good normal really nice guy and then as he starts getting

into the medical aspect of things you go oh okay you're a fucking super genius.

Yeah, he's smart.

Yeah, I remember one of the first things he ever said

that really kind of resonated with me was,

I think someone was asking him about like what the effects

are or the ketogenic diet in terms of like

micro nutrients and what maybe he'd be missing based on kind of like that normal

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