This is Jocco podcast number one 15 with echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo. Good evening.

War is different for everyone who experiences it.

On one end of the spectrum, there are some people who deploy to a safe area

protected by concrete and steel and barbed wire and their job, which is definitely an important part of the machine,

but it just doesn't require them to be put into direct combat.

And then, with a little luck because of that situation, they can easily complete a wartime deployment

with little or no contact with the enemy whatsoever.

But they did their part and we are thankful for that.

On the other end of the spectrum, there are some people that end up in anything but a safe area.

They end up in the belly of the beast.

They are called on to do more than is required and much more than could be expected.

And that situation also creates a spectrum.

Some men find it to be too much.

And instincts of self preservation take over and they go into survival mode and they cower and they hide and they give up and they wait for the inevitable.

But others do what they can. They try to do their duty.

They put one foot in front of the other and they reload their weapon and they try to keep firing.

And that's the middle of the spectrum.

And then at the far end of the spectrum, there are those men that step up and go forward

across the threshold, really across the threshold of life and they go into the fire and into the flame and toward the unknown and toward death.

Not to save themselves.

But they disregard their own safety and their own life to save their friends, their brothers.

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