119: "Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War." The Evolution of War Since 1945 - With General David Petraeus & Lord Andrew Roberts
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4.8 • 216 Ratings
🗓️ 16 November 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
These lines come from a new book, just published, titled ‘Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine.’ The book was written by Lord Roberts, a widely respected UK author, and General Petraeus, former CIA Director and former Commander of US Central Command.
In this conversation, Simon speaks to Andrew and David, who discuss some key ideas and themes from the new book.
We hear their analysis on some lessons learnt after seven decades of conflict following WW2, including some reflections on the Vietnam War, Iraq/Afghanistan, and the current Ukraine conflict.
Strategy, tactics, leadership, intelligence, research, new technologies and planning for the future are all discussed in this illuminating episode.
[This episode was recorded just prior to the current Israel-Gaza conflict, so this is not covered]
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| 0:00.0 | You do see Putin seemingly oblivious to the catastrophic losses that his forces have sustained. |
| 0:07.9 | It's believed, for example, that Russian forces lost 25,000 soldiers lost, not wounded, but killed in action, |
| 0:15.8 | just to take this small village of Bokhmut during the winter offensive, the only objective they |
| 0:21.7 | actually seized. This is 10,000 more, give or take, than they lost in 10 years in Afghanistan. |
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| 0:54.1 | Contrary to what was widely expected at the start of the present century, the world has not seen |
| 0:59.0 | the end of major wars involving large conventional forces, much less the end of so-called |
| 1:04.0 | small wars, confirming that Plato was right over 2,000 years ago when he wrote that only |
| 1:09.8 | the dead have seen the end of war. |
| 1:12.2 | Those lines come from a new book just published, titled Conflict, the Evolution of Warfare |
| 1:17.3 | from 1945 to Ukraine. And to encapsulate this book's significance, I will mention just two of its |
| 1:23.9 | accolades. Henry Kissinger described it as an exceptional book written by two absolute |
| 1:29.0 | masters of their profession. And General James Mattis, former Secretary of Defense, said it is a book |
| 1:34.4 | that will shape the thinking of policymakers and military strategists for generations to come. |
| 1:38.9 | And if you wanted to fuse the analysis and understanding of a widely recognized historian, |
| 1:45.5 | with the experience and insights of a four-star US Army General and former head of the CIA, then this might |
| 1:50.3 | be the perfect combination. Therefore, General David Petraeus and Lord Andrew Roberts, welcome |
| 1:54.9 | to the Money Mears podcast. |
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