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This Week in Startups

11x in Trouble and China's AI Acceleration | E2103

This Week in Startups

Jason Calacanis

Technology

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Today’s show: Jason, Alex, and Lon dig into the controversy around 11x, the Andreessen-backed startup accused of misrepresenting revenue and using fake logos, and what that says about early-stage accountability. Then we break down China’s dual-front blitz in AI and EVs: DeepSeek’s open-source model rivals GPT-4, and Xiaomi’s $30K SU7 is a straight-up Porsche clone shaking the EV market. Finally, we unpack the “4-persona framework” that helped Wiz rocket to $100M+ ARR faster than anyone — a must-know concept for any founder looking to build, sell, and scale like a beast.


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(0:00) Episode Teaser(1:27) Introduction of co-hosts Lon Harris and Alex Wilhelm(3:23) New set design and color analysis(5:43) Announcement of "Twist OT" and potential Patreon model(8:09) Gamestop's Bitcoin strategy and Michael Saylor's influence(10:15) OpenPhone - Streamline and scale your customer communications with OpenPhone. Get 20% off your first 6 months at www.openphone.com/twist

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(17:01) Michael Saylor’s conflict of interest(20:40) LinkedIn Ads - Get a $100 LinkedIn ad credit at http://www.linkedin.com/thisweekinstartups(23:09) Investment strategies for company treasuries(25:10) Allegations against Eleven x startup(30:35) Brex - the financial stack founders can bank on. Get the business account trusted by 1 in 3 US startups at brex.com/banking-solutions.(32:56) The importance of transparency and accountability in startups(42:31) Chinese advancements in AI technology and ChatGPT features(55:09) Insight from Israeli VC Gilly Ranan on successful startups(1:04:26) Founder Friday March Pitch Madness bracket competition(1:10:26) How to start a Founder Friday chapter and community(1:11:21) Bracket competition and Launch Accelerator's 34th cohort

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0:00.0

Let's talk about 11X, the startup backed by Andreessen Horowitz.

0:04.2

TechCrunch put out a story about this.

0:06.0

In this case, one of the things that they covered was the misuse of customer logos, essentially.

0:14.5

11X, according to Zoom Info, kept using their logo for at least four months on their site on, uh, it's AI

0:23.4

dialer in sales calls. And they spent four months demanding they stop, they said. And they're

0:28.9

threatening legal action over this. Oh, it's hard for me to believe that for four months,

0:34.8

somebody from Zoom was angrily emailing any member of the team at 11X,

0:40.6

and that person didn't communicate to the website team.

0:43.7

Hey, pull this logo.

0:44.7

Like, that, that to me is not a satisfying explanation on any level.

0:51.2

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1:29.8

He's Lon Harris.

1:31.3

He's Alex Wilhelm.

1:32.8

We're going to do this week in tech.

1:34.4

I heard in two weeks, Alex, together.

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