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The Rest Is Classified

12. The Spy Who Loved Me: A Russian in New York (Ep 2)

The Rest Is Classified

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🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The net is closing in around Anna Chapman. She is being watched by the FBI as they suspect her of being a Russian spy. Her moves are being tracked, but it is not as simple as they think. With the US and Russia trying to reset relations and President Medvedev stateside, the FBI are not in a place to be arresting Russians in New York. Especially when they can’t prove what she is. So what will they do? Listen as David McCloskey and Gordon Corera discuss Anna Chapman and the precarious nature of her life in the USA. Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.nordvpn.com/restisclassified It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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in the episode description box. Relentless is how one of the

1:21.0

acquaintances who encountered Anna Chapman in New York remembers her. She was introduced to him

1:25.4

at a fancy dinner in Soho. At first, he thought she was just

1:28.2

like the other young Russian women in New York. So he made sure she knew he was not interested in her

1:32.5

type. But she would not give up. Somehow she got his number from a friend and began texting him,

1:37.3

asking to meet. She kept texting again and again over the next few weeks. So he checked her out

1:42.2

with a few people in the business community. Well-placed people had known her from her former life in London, as well as now in New York.

1:48.3

The type of worked in finance and traveled the Atlantic regularly, hedge fund guys.

1:52.3

They all vouched for her. Clearly her time in London had been well spent. Her connections were

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