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This episode is hosted by psychotherapist and bestselling author Amy Morin. Now let's get into the episode.

Okay. Have you ever considered getting help for a mental health or substance abuse issue, but you weren't sure where to find it?

Have you ever thought about recommending a loved one get help but didn't know what to suggest?

Have you ever doubted whether professional help actually works?

If you answered yes to any of those questions, this episode is for you.

Today I talked to Brian Abrams.

You might remember Brian from the R&B group, Color Me Bad, who rose to the top of the charts in the 90s with songs like, I want to sex you up and all for love. The group was really successful, but as they

rose to fame and sold millions of records, Brian was dealing with some serious private battles,

including depression and eating disorder and drinking too much. He wanted to get help many times,

but he struggled to find the help he really needed. So on today's show, he talks about how to

find help that actually works. Make sure to stick around until the end of the episode for

The Therapist Take. This is a part of the show where I'll break down Brian's strategies

and share how you can apply them to your own life. So here's Brian Abrams. He's mentally

strong and this is his story. Brian Abrams, welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast. Yes, ma'am.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. So I am almost positive that one of the very first cassette tapes I

owned back in the day was color me bad. In fact, I don't know if it was mine or if it was my sisters

and I just stole it from her, but I have listened to your voice for many, many years.

That's awesome. The fact that you said cassette tape lets me know that you and I are maybe in the same

vicinity time-wise, because a lot of these younger kids, they don't know what a cassette tape is.

Exactly, right?

So what a lot of people, though, might not know is that while you were so successful publicly,

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