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Edgar's been getting wonderful guests for us to get to visit with lately.

And we've got a few minutes now with Desire Sefentes before we go back to getting Joe

to answer questions.

And I do apologize, especially to Susan in Idaho, who I think has been waiting a long time,

but we'll probably just give her a pile of Joe's books and hope that that will make up

for all the long waiting.

But if you're online, you know that there's just a cadre of really wonderful, among all the other things that are there online,

there is this group of really wonderful young apologists and evangelists who are sharing the Catholic faith

in all kinds of

interesting ways, ways that are very helpful to people where they are, not just people who

already know where to look for this stuff, but they're going out in a certain sense on the

highways and byways of the Internet and finding people. Desiree makes the uncatechized Catholic.

I don't know if my words are a correct podcast, but mostly I know it from Instagram. Desire,

thank you for being here with us. No problem. Thanks for having me, Joe. And thanks for waiting so

I can talk, Susan.

Oh, did you want to talk to Susan? Oh, you're saying, I see your, oh, you're, I got you.

So I'm right. You're mostly, mostly you do your work on Instagram. I do. Yes. I am actually

going to graduate from Franciscan University in three weeks, and then I will

get to pivot into the podcast space.

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