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Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup. Welcome to the rest of this policy leading with me,

Alice Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart.

And we are with Franz Timmermans.

Now, Franz Timmermans is a Dutch politician.

I think unless we count Nick Clegg, who's half Dutch,

I think he's our first Dutch politician on leading.

But he's a very unusual Dutch politician.

For a start, he speaks seven languages. He was educated

in four different countries. So therefore, the job that he took as vice president at the European

Commission, you might think, was absolutely made for him. But he left that to become the leader of the

Labour Green Coalition that tried to beat the hard right party

of Gert Wilders in the recent Dutch election and is now therefore leader of the Labour Party in

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