Welcome to episode 124 of the first 40 miles.

If you're new to backpacking or if you're hopelessly in love with someone who wants you to love backpacking,

then this podcast is for you. We'll talk about the

the essential how to lighten your load and how to make the most of your time on

the trail. I'm your host Heather Legler and I'm Josh Legler and this is the first 40 miles.

Today on the first 40 miles if you're planning your first overnight backpacking trip, we'll talk about a few things that might surprise you.

Next on our Summit Gear Review, an all-American pair of socks from a company who set out to create the best sock ever.

Then this week's hack will get you outside, then inside, then back outside again.

And we'll wrap up with a little trail wisdom from Mr. Frost.

All this, and that's about it.

Today on the first 40 miles.

The first time you do something you really want to know what it's going to be like,

kind of the nitty gritty, like what does that happen? you really want to know what it's going to be like.

Kind of the nitty gritty, like what does the place look like?

What are we gonna do first and then next?

And then how does it all end?

Yeah, what do I need to bring with me? Think about the first day of school for a new kindergartner.

And they have all these questions.

Of course, all of us, you know, after spending many years, many, many days of school.

We know what it's like.

We're used to the surroundings.

We know how it's gonna go through the day.

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