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Money Maze Podcast

125: Is Active Management Worth Paying For? With Terry Smith (CEO, CIO & Founder of Fundsmith)

Money Maze Podcast

Money Maze Podcast

Business, Investing, Management, News, Business News

4.8216 Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Our guest today has been referred to as "the English Warren Buffett" for his style and success in investing. His book, published in 1992, Accounting for Growth, and its ensuing controversy helped propel it to the top of the bestsellers chart, displacing Stephen Hawking's ’A Brief History of Time’ from the No.1 spot. 

He’s been head of research, CEO of a public company, a former top banks analyst (who won’t own a bank in his fund), and is now highly respected Founder and CIO at the global equity fund manager, Fundsmith.

Terry details his progress through finance, including how he examines inconsistencies and checks cash flows. He explains why he believes you cannot be successful in investing unless you break out from the crowd.

He then describes the genesis of Fundsmith, its mission “to run the best fund ever; by which we mean the one with the highest return over the long term adjusted for risk.”  

He then details what he looks for in the companies he selects, red lines, distrusting management gloss and why he believes that equities beat bonds over the long term. Lots to learn!

The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders Bremont Watches, LiveTrade and IFM Investors.

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I think the most underappreciated and under-discussed aspect of equities is that they have a unique quality that no other asset that you can invest in has.

0:09.5

They can compound it value.

0:11.4

Welcome to the Money Maze podcast.

0:13.7

I'm Simon Brewer and Will Campion and I have created this show to explore and unravel some of the mysteries surrounding the investment business.

0:21.7

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to ensure you won't miss a release. If you enjoy this show, please subscribe and we'd love you

0:31.9

to tell a friend or colleague about it. Thank you for listening. Our guest today has been referred to as the English Warren Buffett

0:40.0

for his style and success in investing. His book published in 1992, Accounting for Growth,

0:46.2

and its ensuing controversy, helped propel it to the top of the bestsellers chart,

0:51.0

displacing Stephen Hawking's a brief history of time from the number one spot.

0:55.8

And I did ask myself, has any book with accounting in the title ever been a bestseller

1:00.2

before or after? He's been head of research, CEO of a public company, a former top bank's

1:05.8

analyst who won't own a bank in his fund, and a highly respected and an extremely successful founder and CIO at the

1:12.1

Global Equity Fund Manager Fund Smith. So Terry Smith, welcome today to the Money Mace podcast.

1:17.2

Simon, thank you. So looking back, Terry, you graduated in history from University College

1:22.1

Cardiff in 1974 and finance in the 70s was a different duller beast. Some might say the better for it.

1:30.2

What was the attraction? I've got a first industry, in fact. And my professor, Stanley Crimes,

1:36.6

S.B. Crimes, had me in one of those classic meetings that took place in those days in his sort of

1:41.1

study with a glass of sherry one afternoon and said to me that he thought

1:44.7

I was, quote, was going to do very well in my finals. I said, well, you should know, Prof. You're marking

1:49.4

him after all. There's lots of application for a drill. He said, I think you're going to be,

1:53.9

because he was about to retire, actually. And he said, I think you're going to be my last first, which was nice thing. And he said, I'd like to offer you a role, basically, is

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