Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. Sign up to the Restis Politics Plus. To enjoy ad-free listening, receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets. Just go to the RestisPolitics.com. That's the Restless Politics Leading with me, Rory Stewart.

And with me, Alistair Campbell.

And we've got a member of His Majesty's Cabinet, Peter Kyle, who is the Secretary of State

for all things tech and science and innovation.

And Peter is somebody we talk about on the podcast quite a lot, actually.

And you've got a lot to live up to because I know you listen.

We'd say very nice things about it.

You said, it'd better be good.

I'm only here because you haven't mentioned me for a few weeks when I thought I'd just turn up.

Sorry, yeah.

So Peter is a Labour MP down south.

His background is in, as an aid worker, working for for charities working pretty much in the public sector

a lot of his life after that became an MP in 2015 rising star we call them and has now risen to

the level of the cabinet and i think he's seen as one of the the hopes for future. But has also got some really interesting insights

in relation to his current job, because AI that we keep hearing about, that is part of his brief.

And also very interesting childhood, interesting past, and lots of interesting things in his

background.

So thank you for being here.

Thanks for having me.

Peter, thank you.

Can you begin by, it's a terrible question to ask a politician

because often get a pretty plastic answer,

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