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I Don't Speak German

128: How to Talk to Your Son About Fascism, with Craig A. Johnson

I Don't Speak German

IDSG

Politics, News, Currentaffairs, Society & Culture

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Jack and Daniel welcome to the show Craig A. Johnson - academic, researcher, antifascist, and host of the (excellent) podcast 15 Minutes of Fascism - to chat about his (excellent) new book How to Talk to Your Son About Fascism, a primer on today's fascist and far-right, in all their styles and iterations, aimed at people worried that a young person in their lives (most especially a young man, obviously) is being sucked into the darkness.

Episode Notes:

How to Talk to Your Son About Fascism, book.

15 Minutes of Fascism at Soundcloud 

IDSG on 15MoF

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Craig's Patreon

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Transcript

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0:00.0

That's one of the things that is, I know that you two deal with this, that like one of the

0:04.9

hardest things about telling people about this stuff is that it is just so goofy and dumb.

0:12.2

Like it doesn't make any sense.

0:15.2

It has two modes and they are goofy and gut-wrenchingly horrifying. This is I Don't Speak German.

0:23.6

I'm Jack Graham, he, him, and in this podcast I talk to my friend Daniel Harper, also He Him,

0:42.2

who spent years tracking the far right in their safe spaces.

0:46.5

In this show, we talk about them and about the wider reactionary forces feeding them and feeding off them.

0:52.9

Be warned, this is difficult subject matter. Content

0:55.7

warnings always apply. So welcome back to I Don't Speak German, the podcast that does the

1:06.5

things that you know that it does, because you listen to it probably. And I'm Jack Graham and I'm here with Daniel Harper as usual.

1:12.5

And Daniel, say hello to the little girls and boys and boys and boys and girls and non-bary

1:19.0

folks, absolutely.

1:19.9

And everybody else.

1:20.6

I said everybody else.

1:21.4

No, I'm here.

1:22.4

I hear you just don't want to, you know, don't want to yada yada yada, the non-binary folks.

1:26.3

But yeah, no, hello to all those people.

1:28.5

You're absolutely right.

1:29.6

I did yada yada and I shouldn't have done that.

1:31.8

And we are very lucky and happy and honored to have with a special guest on the show.

1:38.0

Craig Johnson, host of 15 Minutes of Fascism.

1:41.1

Hi, Craig.

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