What up family, it's episode 129 of The Genius Life.

What's going on everybody welcome to another episode of The Genius Life.

I'm your host Max Lugavira, filmmaker, health and science journalist in the author of

The New York Times bestselling book Genius Foods and The Genius Life.

I'm so excited to bring you this episode of the show in which I welcome a true luminary

in the field of photodynamic therapy and photobyomodulation.

Dr. Michael Hamlin is a principal investigator at Wulman Center for Photo Medicine at Massachusetts

General Hospital and he's an associate professor at Harvard Medical School.

He's the editor of the Medical Journal Photo Biodymodulation, Photo Medicine and Laser

Surgery and he himself is actually published over 600 papers in Pureview Journal's

Worldwide.

This is the expert in all things light therapy and I'm excited to do a deep dive.

I have to admit that when I first became aware of this technology and saw it sort of popping

up in the wellness community, I was highly skeptical and you guys know if you have spent

any time listening to my podcast or following me on Instagram or read any of my books that

I don't jump on bedwagon, so I just don't.

I'm talking to many of my most educated friends doing a deep dive into the literature

myself and after having this conversation with Dr. Hamlin who, as I mentioned, is one

of the leading experts on this topic, I have to admit that the argument is very compelling

that light truly is a form of medicine.

And over the next hour, we're going to talk specifically about red and near infrared

light, which is the type of light that you see sometimes panels made by companies like

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