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130: How Passive Investing May Have Created a Bifurcated Market for Value Investors

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🗓️ 11 March 2024

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

In this bitesize feature, David Einhorn, Founder & President of Greenlight Capital, discusses the potential impact passive investing has had on value investors, and where opportunities may lie. 

David is one of Wall Street's most closely followed hedge fund managers, whose public commentary on stocks has had market moving results ('The Einhorn Effect'). He's perhaps most well-known for his short bet on Lehman Brothers in 2007. 

This is an excerpt from his appearance at the London Value Investor Conference in May 2023, included as part of our short-form Money Maze Vignettes series.

The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders Bremont Watches, and IFM Investors.

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0:29.2

Oscar Wilde defined a cynic as somebody who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing.

0:35.0

And I wonder in the tsunami of passive investing, whether in fact

0:39.9

it's created a feast for the diligent value hunters. Feast or famine? I don't know, but that's actually

0:47.8

a really good quote because I don't think it describes the value investors, but I think it describes

0:53.1

the vast majority of market participants.

0:57.1

First of all, thank you guys for having me. I was flattered to get the invitation, and I was a little

1:03.2

startled to realize that there's still value investors left. There you are. This is really,

1:09.5

really wonderful. I was glad we're not at the Natural History Museum or

1:12.9

something with the dinosaurs. I've made the comment before that the value investing industry has

1:18.3

had irreparable damage. It's unlikely to recover in a material way. But the corollary of that is that

1:26.9

value investing for those that remain, I think, is an extraordinarily

1:32.4

exciting time. The key is to recognize how the landscape has changed and not continue trying to

1:40.3

do things the old way that aren't going to work in the current market structure, but

1:46.0

are much more likely to work that are opportunities that are created from, I would call it,

1:51.0

the defects and the opportunities that are created by the new market structure.

1:55.0

Let me explain the way that I would tend to have looked at things a long time ago, which is,

2:00.0

our business was

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