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Before we begin, I just wanted to warn you that there is some language in this episode,

not that much, but enough that you probably shouldn't listen with children in the room.

Alright, let's start the show.

Tanya and Rick Fernandez say that they have been the victims of a stalker since the summer of

2019. They told me that their daughter's doctor's husband is the one responsible for sending

these harassing messages. But if you've been listening this far,

you know that police say that all these Instagram accounts sending these messages originated

from one place, the Fernandez's house. Tanya and Rick Fernandez are now facing six

felonies combined. They're charged with harassment and computer tampering. The trial was supposed

to happen in July and it's now scheduled for September. In this series, we've heard mainly

from Tanya and Rick's side of the story, but today, for the first time ever, you will hear from one

of the central characters involved in this case, Dr. Grace Gresman. Of course, that's not her real name.

So here's what happened. I requested police files from Phoenix PD. These are publicly available

files. I did this several months ago. In fact, I had forgotten I'd even requested them. When one day,

I got an email alerting me that the files were ready for download. It was a zip file.

And when I clicked on it, it took quite a long time to download. Whatever was in this file,

was huge. And when it finally downloaded, I opened it and discovered four audio files.

The first audio file was a police interview conducted with Dr. Gresman. The second file was a

recording with new possible victims. And the third file was an interview with Rick Fernandez.

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