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Episode 132, never enough.

Confronting toxic achievement culture with special guest author Jennifer Wallace.

So Lisa, tell me something about your summer that nobody else knows that was

transformative. Oh, I had quite a summer, Vina. I'm so glad to be back here for season four,

but it was a good summer. And I will tell you, this sounds kind of corny, but it's really true and

real. I had the honor of being at the Aspen Ideas Festival this summer, and there were two interactions I had that really felt life-changing. One was with Jason Rosian, who was a Washington Post reporter who was held in an Iranian prison for a year and a half. And I ended up in a long conversation with him about his experience. And then

the other was Kate Bowler, who is a terrific podcaster. I got to be on her podcast. She's a scholar

and a writer and also just like a really fun and wonderful person. And she was diagnosed with

stage four cancer seven years ago when she was 35, like out of nowhere.

And you can't be in close connection with people who have gone through such extraordinary things

and not, I think, feel shifted by it.

And the ramifications for me that the whole rest of the summer and hopefully for as long as I

can hold on to it, I just have the sense of every day like, I am the luckiest person I know.

I am so fortunate to have all my great good luck in the world.

I am so happy and lucky.

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