#147 - Paulina Stevens & Jezmina Von Thiele, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling Authors

The Witch Wave

Pam Grossman

Arts, Visual Arts, Spirituality, Other, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Paulina Stevens and Jezmina Von Thiele are the co-hosts of Romanistan, a podcast that celebrates Romani identity, culture, and tradition. They are also the co-authors of the book, Secrets of Romani Fortune-Telling: Divining with Tarot, Palmistry, Tea Leaves, and More.

Paulina Stevens is a California-based author, activist, and spiritual entrepreneur. She was the subject of the LA Times podcast Foretold, which chronicles her powerful personal journey of breaking away from her insular community and reclaiming her voice. She is also the founder of Romani Holistic, a spiritual wellness business offering intuitive readings, herbal remedies, and handcrafted holistic goods rooted in ancestral knowledge.

Jezmina Von Thiele (they/she) is a writer, educator, performer, and fortune-teller whose work is rooted in their mixed Sinti Romani traditions. Their poetry, fiction, and nonfiction have been featured in Prairie Schooner, The Kenyon Review Online, Narrative Magazine, and other publications. Based in the New Hampshire Seacoast area, Jezmina leads transformative rituals and workshops on divination, spiritual wellness, and the creative arts; provides private tarot, palm, and tea leaf readings; and offers spiritual and creative coaching, online and in person.

On this episode, Paulina and Jezmina discuss Romani divination and folk magic, the history of the “G-word,” and the complex power of intuition.

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