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The Pomp Podcast

#1526 Darius Dale | Trump Tariffs Will Destroy The Economy?!

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Darius Dale is the founder & CEO of 42Macro. In this conversation, we discuss tariffs, risk assets, blue collar vs. Wall Street, and what could happen next. 

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0:00.0

What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Many of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp podcast, which is my effort to find the most interesting people in the world and sit with them for hours while I ask questions in an effort to learn. So it would mean the world to me if you would subscribe to the show on your favorite audio platform, watch episodes on YouTube,

0:21.4

and tell your friends and family about the podcast.

0:24.1

My goal is to help millions learn from the world's most interesting people.

0:28.0

So let's get in to today's episode.

0:30.6

What's going on, guys?

0:31.4

Today we've got an amazing episode with Darius Dale, the founder and CEO of 42 Macro.

0:35.3

We talk tariffs.

0:36.3

What's going on with risk assets?

0:37.8

Was it a mistake?

0:38.9

What's going to happen next?

0:40.0

And Darius, he lays it on.

0:41.5

Is this the blue collar industry versus Wall Street?

0:43.8

Who's going to win?

0:44.7

We got it all covered today.

0:46.1

Here's my latest conversation with Darius Dale.

0:48.4

Anthony Pompleano runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are surely their opinions

0:54.8

and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed

0:59.7

by Pomp or his guest as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a

1:04.7

particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for

1:09.8

informational purposes only.

1:12.5

Today's episode is brought to you by Consensus. They're the world's longest running and

1:16.4

most influential gathering of the global crypto blockchain and AI communities. Curated by

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